But, they are going to start on a few more bass specfic amps. The fm3 features our latest ares amp modelinga technology developed by fractal audio for the awardwinning axe fx iii. Fractool manages presets and cabs and does a lot more. Despite the complexity and sophistication, its easy to focus on the bare essentials for getting up and running. For other types the menu shows only the input drive. But if you just want to learn all about amp sims specifically, keep reading. Starting with the first batch of guitar gym courses ive used an axefx on every truefire release. Fx is the guitar processor with 80s looks and 21st. And it can be used in the loop of an amp for delays and verb and whatnot. Discussion in discussion started by anthony newcomb, jun 2, 2017. Looking inside the kemper chassis, i would not take something like that on the road.
Two stateoftheart analog devices tigersharc dsps are onboard, one dedicated solely to amp modeling, the other for effects. Those connecting to a guitar amp or keyboard may want a 14inch jack to chain in pedals. We have a couple of amplifier zealots on ug, and while ive got nothing. Fractal audio systems amp modeling and effects processor. Axe is better at effects, and kemper is better at true amp tone. And a big plus with the axefx ii version over the real amp is that you can very easily run it through different virtual cabssay, a model of a celestion goldequipped 2x12 or a 1x8 tweedto get totally different flavors from the same amp without fretting over ohms or filling your. But the kemper just seems like a harsh version of the amp its trying to imitate and lacks in accurate spectral balance. Updated version of the axefx ii usb driver for os x catalina. One of the clips is a sample of an axe fx iii preset and the other is a kemper profile of that axe fx iii. The axe is all about component modeling, you can build your own amp and tone with it, so if you like that side of things then it rocks. Its on my wish list for sure like, fantasy wish list as selling my entire pedal board and amp may just barely pay for a new one. I owned the axe fx 2 as my main rig for about 5 years so im very familiar with it. For simulations i think kemper is the best, for live setup go for axe fx.
Please hit the subscribe button along with the notification bell for more videos and follow sds at. The buyer must manually load them into the axe fx s user cab locations and link them to the proper cab block or blocks as described in the preset description. Backward compatibility with axefx ii mark iii presets via axeedit software. The information also applies to the previous generation of modelers axe fx ii series and ax8 for the most part. He wasnt using an amp, and his sound was really good. For those not familiar with the axe fx concept, its a highend rackmountable amp modeller with a long list of prestigious and professional endorsees. Im sure mine had a problem, or simply put, i dont have enough amp variety under my belt to make it work as intended. While the axefx redefined the professional modeler, the line 6 helix. A lot of people would argue that the line 6 should sit on the throne as it is the one who has the longest tenure in the industry.
Fracpad fractal audio wiki fractal audio systems axe. Rigtalk view topic mesa boogie mark iv vs axefx ii. Point in case is all the daw software around for windows, mac osx and linux. What is the consensus as far as realism is concerned, or is it still the old consensus of. This page lists all amp models types in fractal audios current amp modelers. This is the first product ive tried from fractal audio systems, and its one of a pair of guitar amp and effect simulators built by the company. I have a par of clrs and this is the first software that has the touch and feel. But for bass, they are as others mentioned, behind.
Although it has cabinet emulation and different amplifier types it does not attempt to model any amplifier or effect exactly. If you are looking for highend modelers, the axe fx should be on the top of your list. Fractal audio shoots for line 6 helix with fm3 floorbased. Jun 16, 2011 i am thinking of selling some gear, to get an axe fx, or axe fx ultra. Tubescreamer25watt and used the same amp settings across all. Ive got some irs i love, that ive been using with recabinet, but i cant seem to find any info on converting them to the sysex format the axefx needs. Fractool fractal audio wiki fractal audio systems axefx. Stream eleven rack vs amplifire vs axe fx ii jcm800 by singtall from desktop or your mobile device. Axe fx vs helix vs kemper vs amplifire modelling amps shootout. But this was done using headphones and studio monitors. More importantly, the feel and dynamics were very amplike. In those terms, playing through a sim is very much like playing through a sampled drum kit vs. But if i had to be stuck in a cell with only one piece of kit and an guitar, the axe2 wouldnt be such a bad thing.
Subtle eq adjustments can tighten up the sound or increase the depth. A couple of years after the axefx appeared, chris kemper, the creator of the virus synth, created a company for the purpose of producing the kemper profiling amp. An amp simulator amp sim for short is a plugin that imitates the sound of a guitar amp. Hey, i got axe fx ii and i am looking for good power amp for it. My new axe fx 2 is an awesome piece of equipment, and i am getting great tones by using the cab irs in my patches and sort of toning down the effects of the ir with the cab parameters, but according to conventional wisdom on the axe i should be running power amp sims on which i. Hi all, i just grabbed a used standard, and i love it so far, but im having trouble figuring out how to load my own irs into it. When a model is selected for amps of this type, the menu shows both controls. Amplifier models list fractal audio systems axefx wiki. Axe fx iii and fm3, with brief additional information. Ive been playing for about 12 years and have a minimal pedal setup at the moment. The axe fx ii takes real amp tone and feel to the next level, offering the latest word on restoring digital to its rightful place as the superior solution for guitar processing.
Like fractal audio axefx, line 6 helix, kemper profiling amplifier, and atomic amplifire. I have 3 diff amp combos blackheart little giant, vht cpecial 6, and yamaha dg100212. Thanks for watching this peavey 6505 vs 11 amp modelers comparison video. Updated version of the axe fx ii usb driver for os x catalina. Best power amp to handle with fractal audio axe fx 2. However, after having had one for about 6 weeks or so, i think it is money wellspent. The high gain amp wasnt great, but the clean and med gain was pretty nice. I was convinced fully that authentically replicated the guitar amp recording process. The helix is an outstanding bit of kit, and the amp sims are only.
Run your guitar through one of these plugins and youll have hundreds of iconic guitar tones at your fingertips. The axe fx amp types default to a particular state for the bright switch. Jul 20, 2017 the fractal audio systems axefx preampfx processor has been a mainstay in my recording arsenal since 2010. Fractal audio axe fx ultra preampeffects processor reverb. View and download fractal axefx ii owners manual online. Axefx vs positivegrid bias gearslutz pro audio community. At the moment im in lust with the suhr badger 35 and the mesa mini rec. I notice only a very, very subtle loss of highs with this method. The information also applies to the previous generation of modelers axefx ii series and ax8 for the most part.
Furthermore lifting the ground on your pc will typically make any. Axe fx 2 cannot get good tones through guitar cab without. Axe edit is pretty much required for doing any meaningful tweaking on the axe fx. Is here the kemper profiled the exactly same axe sound or is it a different profile of the same amp. For the axe fx ii i used ownhammer speaker cabinets that would come close to matching the amp models. If you turn off poweramp and cab modeling, the axe fx will replicate the exact sound of the real amp s preamp such that plugging the axe fx into the real amp s physical poweramp and cab sounds completely natural and, in the tests ive personally run, almost indistinguishable from the real thing. Most presets use one or more specific impulse responses irs that are included in the preset download. This is a super duper powerful dsp rack type processor. Its also served me well in traveling for gigs in far away places most notably with karsh kale and dweezil zappa. Fractal audio axe fx ii preampeffects processor reverb. Ive read that the axe fx s effects sound more like studio effects, compared to the live sound of actual effect pedals so maybe id be better of buying the axe fx for studio. The axe fx has a lot of eq resources for just this reason. Even the darling of current modelling the kemper i know its not modelling but its achieves the same thing with power amp built in and the pedal controller is less that the cost of the axe 3. Axefx3 will come out soon positive grid community forum.
Just too fragile and like the axe fx if anything goes wrong with it, youre. All that goes makes for a pretty serious piece of kit for players looking for a portable virtual guitar rig. Comparing the axefx ii, ax8 and fx8 fractal audio wiki. If the amp had a hardwired treble peaker the default state is on. Keep the power amp section on with your axe fx, you still want to model it even though its running through another tube power amp.
Oct 14, 20 the amp i used is a mesa boogie 50watts, but if u plug the axe fx on the return jack of the fx loop and use the amp only as a power section, turn the power amp simulation off in the axe, it didnt feel the same, the real tube amp still has the upper hand but it is hard to pin point exactly what internal knob i need to turn in the axe to make it. After 1 yr, no longer convinced axe fx 2 is the real deal. The fact that people who actually design and market tube amps professionally use the axe fx ii and later, during the design phase, to test circuit changes says a lot about cliffs attention to details. I quickly learned that this unit is not a replacement for an allinone solution like a kemper, helix or axe fx. I recently did a little test on just how good the axe fx was in duplicating a real amp and came to the conclusion it is 100% accurate. Theres a reasonably large display window, which shows both values and. Rigtalk view topic mesa boogie mark iv vs axe fx ii. It allows naming scenes, attaching modifiers to any parameter, displaying real world amp drive panels, searching parameters by name, displaying a tuner based on the axe fx iiis tuner ui, selecting knob skins, importing presets which were made for other products, turning the. Axefx iii and fm3, with brief additional information.
Download presets and cabs, or upload your own creations. The kemper, axe fx and helix do, but theyre more complete and better in my. Its also possible to convert presets with 3rdparty software. Six months with the fractal audio axe fx ii listeninggame.
Reamping fractal audio systems axefx wiki landing page. Popular downloads axe change the official site for fractal. Jul 15, 2010 im more wondering what kind of amp would be best for this application whether it be tube or solid state, and models. Recently i have noticed it sounds like nothing more than a glorified and ultra expensive pod at best. Sold the axe mainly because those two cover my needs for sounds just fine.
It is nearly infinitely configurable, which is a good thing though some people may not like that. Be smart and stay safe, and thank you for choosing fractal audio systems. Axefx iii vs axefx ii amp modeling comparison youtube. One of the clips below is the axe fx iii and the other is a kemper profile of it. By toggling the fx loop block on and off, it defeats the reamp and lets me really dial the inout levels to unity. Dont let this turn into an axe fx vs kemper thread, please. Page 82 if you are connecting the axe fx to a tube power amp as well, then once again the signal is effectively passed through a power amp twice once in the axe fx, once in the external tube amp.
If the amp had no circuit at all the default state is off. Axe fx iii vs kemper profiling amp page 7 the gear page. I use the helix mainly for fx with a bogner tube amp. Fractal audio systems, creators of industryleading guitar amp modeling and. The kemper is about capturing the sound and feel of an existing micd up amp, or sharing profiles of various amps theres a vast rig exchange, there are far fewer controls, just the critical stuff, amp tone. So im sure its my fault for trying to use it as a substitute. We have 2 fractal axe fx ii xl manuals available for free pdf download. Great piece of kit but oh my that price, talk about rip off. Discuss steves studios, your studios and gear setups, amps and effects here. Axiom bluecat vs axefx fractal audio systems forum. Amplitube officially licensed models vs axe fx ii models high. If youre cool with using class d power and prefer lightweight, then there are a lot of decent amp choices in this class.
Housed in a twounit rack format, the ultra has a clearly arranged control panel and a large lcd display. Tweaking the axe fx from the unit itself is a nightmare. The official source for presets and cabs for your axe fx. Theyve gone into this level of detail for over 50 amplifier types teamed with 39. Axe fx vs helix vs kemper vs amplifire modelling amps. Ive owned a kemper years ago, never owned an axe fx of any sort. It works with and without a connection to the processor. Sounds great, to my ear it is so close to the sound and feel of a tube amp that it doesnt really matter. The bass player was running his bass into an axe fx and then into the pa. Feel like ive spoken on forums about this so much today. Pc amp sims that sounds as good as axe fx and kemper.
Fractal audios axefx is the guitar processor with 80s looks and 21stcentury power. The axe fx iii tone match mini manual is also now available. What do the pricey amp sims like kemper and axe fx have that i. I sold all my amps and pedals and got an axe fx ii. Dont forget to make a donation if fractool helps you accomplishing things. I came across a great deal and ended up buying a cheap triple rectifier that ill be trading for an axe fx. Axe fx ii the amp block now differentiates amps that have both input drive and overdrive controls, i.
Apr 18, 2018 axe fx iii vs axe fx ii amp modeling comparison ml sound lab. Discussion axe fx 2 vs fractal fx8 vs kemper vs bias amp vs. The axe fx is great for what it does, but better used as an fx processing unit for wetdry amp rigs. Fractal axe fx ii xl manuals manuals and user guides for fractal axe fx ii xl. With tube amps you only have a couple of knobs you can fiddle with and this obviously leads to you playing more and not diving into deeper parameters where you question does. I also have a blackheart handsome devil head 7w15w with cab. Axe change the official site for fractal audio presets. Who permanently moved from axe fx ii and went back to amps. Im pretty convinced that you can get every tone out there with the axe fx iii. Truth be told, i was anti axe fx before the axe fx ii hit. Fractal vs real tube amp gearslutz pro audio community. Ive done lots of research over the last few months trying to determine if i want to build up a nice pedal collection or if i should save up for something like the axe fx. You dont need a tube amp but theyre fun to play with.
Axe fx units have very powerful dsp, and you can build a complete signal chain that comes close to the sort of recorded sound an experienced engineer with great gear and mics and a good recording. A complete rackmounted system for guitar amplification modeling and effects, the fractal audio axe fx ii improves on the acclaimed original by providing even better sound, more presets and more flexibility than ever. Axe fx iii vs axe fx ii amp modeling comparison ml sound lab. Fractal audio axe fx ultrastraight out of the box, the results look impressive.
Trust me, i had my first axe fx ii back when axe edit was still unstable and unusable so i did all my tweaking on the unit. Digi pre di ins you obviously need to pop an fx loop in your algorithm. View and download fractal axefx user manual online. Axe change the official site for fractal audio presets, cabs. Please make sure that the preset or presets you purchase are for the fractal. Axe fx vs real effect pedals looking for opinions of people who have usedheard the axe fx hopefully the current version. I would challange pretty much anyone to identify the actual amp vs. If you need help updating, see the owners manual or this guide. Just think of the tube power amp as a volume for it that has different dynamics. Many of the amp models are featured in factory presets. The amp modeling algorithm is very similar but theres a few places on the ii. Amp block fractal audio systems axefx wiki landing page.